You know, the moment that rolf released the new vigor this year i admittedly just sighed and said 'ehh its just another wheel.' Personally, i thought the low spoke count and deep v section was pretty scary. I had heard horror stories from a few buddies of mine about the ride being super stiff and unforgiving. However, they didnt ride Rolfs and i gotta tell you these things are awesome. theyre super light, stiff where it really counts and come built standard with american made white industries hubs. Awesome.